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Here is a great salad recipe from Tiffany, a wonderful godly mother of seven. Here is what she serves:

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On Friday, I was a little discouraged knowing that 690 families had signed up to receive a Thanksgiving Dinner from us as You Are Special Community Outreach, a local food pantry/food bank in the City of Orange because they might not all receive the dinner. Our normal Stater Bros in Santa Ana and Ralph’s in Tustin that we collect food from in our local community said we did not have our paper work in order so we would not be able to stand outside and get the donations from the community that we would need in order to get the food for the families.

Giving out a flyer and a young woman giving generously!

So I came home, cried a little then prayed, “Lord, You know our needs and You knew this would happen so I put my trust in You.”

Then got up and all of us worked together spread out over this local area of Tustin, Orange and Santa Ana to the stores who were willing to let us be there such as Pacific Ranch, Stater Bros in Orange across from the food pantry, and Stater Bros in Tustin, Ralph’s in Orange on Main and Chapman, Albertson’s on Jamboree/Chapman, Albertson’s in Villa Park, and Albertson’s on Tustin and Collins.The store managers and customers helped us to collect the turkeys and food needed to fill up bags for those in our local area to have a wonderful Thanksgiving this year. I have to say “thank you” to those who donated. Huge turkeys from Pacific Ranch Market, customers and the store. Bruxies in Orange donated 12 turkeys! And some men in the community dropped off turkeys during the week. My friends, Project Dignity, WD Foundation and Southern Counties who donated finances to make this happen.

The list of those in need is huge. Daily people have a need and economic situations place them in a position where they will stand in line for several hours at our own facility as well as other places like ours. Many elderly, young college kids away from home and from very diverse backgrounds are in need.

I have a lot to be thankful for! My Lord, my husband, my children, and grandchildren. My friends, co-laborers, my church, community and all those who make wonderful events like this happen.

~Michelle

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Hello all, I am doing a research project on the women currently involved in the raunch culture who were raised in churches and who are pastor’s daughters. Please send me any articles or studies done on this. There has been a rise among professing Christian women who have turned to the world that were raised in churches.

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Looking with intent….

This is a good article dealing with men and their eyes….there has to be a place where we as believers do not cross that line. There is a tremendous argument in the church today and it is “don’t judge me.” Paul says, sexual immorality is to be judged by believers in the church but it is outside we don’t judge because they have not accepted Christ. We have to come to a place where we work to transform our thinking as believing men or women.

God is faithful to those struggling, men or women who are believers. There is hope as it says in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11…”as such were some of you.”

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Question from a Reader

Just a comment….I don’t know what a good/great mother-in-law, daughter-in-law relationship looks like. My mom still has issues with my grandma. My mom’s mom was very good at saying what ever came to her mind, it was rare that we all visited with out her getting cranky with someone much less a daughter-in-law. I have been through a lot with my mother-in-law. Especially because I’m the only one with grand kids nearby. From what she says my sister-in-law (her other daughter-in-law) eats healthy and has perfect parenting skills. That is a hard pill to swallow. I feel like I’m under the microscope. Anyhow, I find it difficult to hear the words “Mother-in-law” without getting a negative feeling. I don’t want to feel that way. It’s kind of like the word submission.  It has taken a long time to view it rightly and there are still days where I have to slowly reprocess my feeling about that word until I get it right.

I don’t even know that I would be able to trust my mother-in-law because what has happen in the past. (just being honest)

My Response

First, this is a good question: What does a good in law relationship look like? Mutual respect and wisdom would be the answer. I understand that sometimes a mother in law might not understand her daughter in law and vice versa but it does take time to develop and a lot of patience. I answer a lot of questions in the paragraphs below. As believers we are to understand why certain issues could make us angry or what idol are we dealing with as it says in James 4:1-4. We need to remember that we cannot control the other person but we can control ourselves. 1 Peter 2:18-23 We should not revile when reviled against and that God allows circumstances and situations….all of them for His purposes and ultimate will. Romans 8:28-29 and 1Corinthians 10:13. Now…are we willing to do the work and serve, either the mom-in-law or the daughter-in-law without an expectation of them responding the way we think they should? Psalm 62:5….that is the question.

Let me share a funny…A big-game hunter went on safari with his wife and mother-in- law. One evening, while still deep in the jungle, the Mrs. awoke to find her mother gone. Rushing to her husband, she insisted on them both trying to find her mother.

The hunter picked up his rifle, took a swig of whiskey, and started to look for her. In a clearing not far from the camp, they came upon a chilling sight: the mother-in-law was backed up against a thick, impenetrable bush, and a large male lion stood facing her. The wife cried, “What are we going to do?”

“Nothing,” said the hunter husband. “The lion got himself into this mess, let him get himself out of it.”

When I started working on this subject and saw that it is an issue with many women and now that I am one, I understand both sides. I have a daughter-in-law who is married to my oldest son, and a daughter married to my son-in-law, both children have been married almost 4 years now. This is a struggle all of us had in one way, shape or form. I noticed some blog titles which I shared with some of the women at our church when I spoke on grandparenting and in-laws, they were:

 Blog search terms….

How to deal with monter in law

Christian woman and my husband annoy me

mother in law against my religious views

Responsibilities of a daughter in law

How to be a great mother in law

Wife’s responsibilities to inlaws

Christian mother in law

Christian ways to deal with mother in law from hell

American wives and mothers

Daughter in law problems

Christian ways to deal with mother in law

keys to being a great mother in law

Christian wives trouble with mother in law

my daughter, and son in law are not Christian

my daughter in law and son keep distance

daughter in law and mommy problems

what are my responsibilities as a Christian daughter in law

This list tells me that there are women seeking on how to deal with in-law issues that come naturally along with the separation and marriage to a son or a daughter….

The subject of in-laws is not discussed to often and these relationships can create serious problems in marriages if not dealt with biblically and carefully.There was a report released in 2001 by Iowa University that assessed the connection between in laws relations and the future success of the marriage.

There are 4 in law relations that were addressed in this research. What they found was that each of the in law combinations not just the famous mother-in-law relationship played significant roles and actually Father in law relations were the most challenging.

Most people believe it is just for newly and young married couples but the in law relationships can create hostility and stress for many married couples, young and old alike.

Biblical Examples of in law relationships

In Genesis 26:34-35 we have Isaac and Rebecca struggling with the wives of Esau.  It says this, “ When Esau was forty years old, he took as wives Judith the daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Basemath the daughter of Elon the Hittite. 35 And they were a grief of mind to Isaac and Rebekah.” In Genesis 31, Laban the father in law of Jacob becomes accusatory  in Gen 31:1, then Jacob notices the countenance….the Lord tells him to flee but in Laban’s blessing, he basically is implying for Jacob to not come back.

In Judges 15:1-8 tells us that Samson had trouble with his father in law giving Samson’s wife to another man then Samson’s vengeance upon that conflict. King David had conflict with his father in law. Saul wanted to kill him, so David had to flee for his life in 1 Samuel 18:20-30. Lot and his sons in law in Gen 19:14.  Judah and Tamar in Gen 38:11.  Naomi, Ruth and Orpah had a great relationship…they became supports to one another after Naomi’s sons died in Ruth 1:6-1. How about Peter and his mother-in-law. She was sick, then was healed in Mark 1:30-31, then started to take care of those in the house by waiting on them.

If we are going to address this issue biblically, then that is where we need to start. In Galatians 6 :2 we are to bear one another’s burdens to fulfill the law of Christ. As we marry, we will have problems with in-laws. However, the marriage relationship is priority over any other relationship outside of our personal relationship with Christ. Marriage creates a new family unit and we are to cleave or join to our spouse. Mathew 19:3-9 and Mal. 2:14-16, this is permanent and personal intimacy. Marriage first, children second and work is third on the priority list of a godly marriage. However, this does not mean This does not mean that adult children stop honoring their parents as it says in Proverbs 23:22, “Listen to your father who begot you, And do not despise your mother when she is old.”  And it does not mean simply to move out of the parent’s home. This means certain things do change after we marry.

How can you walk this out practically as the adult child of the parent in law?

Children should not let the in-laws ever demean their spouse and wives as well as husbands should be careful not to complain to their parents about their spouses…

We should always look for ways to commend and build up our mate to our parents..

We should make an effort to be sure that our mate feels included in family discussions. The in-law can feel left out of some family discussions of things that went on in the past.

Wayne Mack’s “In-Laws, married with Parents.” is excellent. I suggest reading that.

Let’s personalize to Daughter in laws and mother in laws

What do our daughter in laws need? I asked Halannah, my daughter in law to personalize for me what her needs are….because I truly want to know and I believe her desire is for me to be honored by her like a mother as well.

She needs acceptance-whether or not she fails or does not do what I would do or how I might have done something or even what her husband might expect from her, she needs to feel accepted by me for her choices…the way she cooks, the way she cleans the way she takes care of her babies, the way she takes care of Taylor her thoughts for the future of her family.

She shared with me that although she is aware that she is the wife, in her mind she does not want Taylor to feel as if he has to choose. Yes, if the mother in law or father in law feels she or he has to right to tell you or your son what to do and how to live, there must come a separation for the saving of the newly formed family but if things are good, then what Halannah shared with me is that she does not want to cause her husband to be torn. As believers, this is correct and as a daughter in law, her perspective is right.

She wants to feel included-if we are having dinner or something is going on, she would like me to call and tell her personally. Some daughter in laws might not care or want to talk to their mother in law but for her, she likes and needs that. For those of us who are mother in laws, we need to know what our daughter or son in law prefers.

She wants and needs me to support her authority specifically with her children. This is the key here, her children. They are not mine and they are not yours. It is easy for the grandmother to want to please the grandchildren but I know the right thing to do is to get the mom’s or son’s approval first. Sometimes this is a growing moment. Halannah has at times been hesitant to talk with me about things she would like me to do or not to do but for me it helps to know what her desires are for her children. To be quite honest she is all over Elizabeth in obeying and asking permission for things. She is two years old. I do not want to undermine Halannah and Taylor’s parenting for anything.

One of the main things our married adult children need is loyalty. We are to be loyal to the Lord and we are to be loyal to God’s plan for the family. We do not want to load them up with expectations or obligations. That makes us miserable and them miserable. Taylor and Ashley need us to not put expectations upon them that they cannot or will not be able to fulfill. Naomi, the mother in law to Ruth and Orpah, set them free, there was no guilt. One stayed with her and the other left. This relationship was characterized by love. We are to be loyal to our children but we cannot expect their loyalty to us, no strings, no guilt. Period! The principle here is to set them free. No strings, no guilt but an open door policy. This is easier said than done but for me personally, I talk to my kids to ask them what I can do to change. Eric said something that was outstanding, most don’t want to change. The mother’s in law or father in laws say things like, “that is just the way I am so they need to take me this way.” That is completely unbiblical and as believers, we should be constantly changing.

Service is the next thing our married adult children need. Service with no strings. In Mathew 8:14-15, she served them. In the gospel of Mark, serving is a sign of greatness.  So we see Peter’s mother in law’s character. She served. You know what kind of servant you are when someone treats you like one. If Halannah is sick, her mom or I will go over and help her. If she is busy, needs a little break, we help them and they help us right back. They are always willing to help us too. Meals, financially with wisdom and any help they need. What does no strings attached mean? Open ended, you give a gift, you don’t expect anything from it. You can’t be bothered if they want to take it back, celebrations…the daughters and daughter in laws desperately need and want your approval as the mother in law. Do you tell her?….When was the last time you told your daughter in law how much you love her or love that she is raising your grandchildren or love the way she takes care of her husband your son? Or how about your son in law…my mom was frustrated when she heard about me homeschooling and even with my husband, Eric. But once her and my stepfather saw the lives of my children, they did not praise me (hello) but they praised him and to be honest, I loved it!

Let’s personalize to Daughter in laws and mother in laws

How about mother in laws…what do we need? Daughters in laws do not have the same flack surrounding them but they really should because this is not entirely just. When I went online and studied some of the comments and blogs I was saddened by what some daughter-in-laws said towards their mother in laws. It seemed as if nothing the mom in law did was right. I think it is time we discover what is right with being a mother in law don’t you?

Daughter in laws can actually make the relationship miserable or joyful and we can turn to the Gospels for the answers. Children are to honor their parents, whether in law or not this can cause tremendous trouble for the family if the daughter in law has a bad attitude towards the mom in law. Honor is important to the mother in law. A daughter should honor her parents and a daughter in law should to her husband’s as well. Not because she feels the same towards her as her own mother but because she is doing this unto the Lord. This means she should be kind, courteous and thoughtful towards her mother in law as she is to her own mother. Courtesy implies graciousness and politeness. This does not mean a superficial stiff politeness but a warm and genuine friendliness. How many of us know we can feel if someone dislikes us or is just tolerating us?

The way you talk to us or about us is important. Your husband will help in this. Ask him, do I talk kindly about your mother or do I put you on the defensive because I nit pick everything she is doing or tries to do? Ashley was struggling a little bit with her mother in law so I explained to her, Ashley, what you reap after you have sown unkindness to your mother in law will not be worth what you have sown. In other words, if you mistreat your mother in law, when you become one, be careful. God’s word is clear, God is not mocked, whatever a man sows that he shall reap. Your son or daughter will be married some day. God’s mercy lasts a lifetime but it does not always prevent consequences.

She needs kindness..phone calls, cards helping her if she needs it being sympathetic and tenderhearted as well as being quick to forgive. This includes the children if you have some. She needs to have time with the grand children. Adapt to your mother in laws styles.

Also, don’t forget that she raised the man you are married to. She is intelligent and has wisdom. Sometimes it can make the mother in law feel bad if the daughter in law is saying continually…well my mother says this or my mother says that when you forget the man you are married to was raised by this women who had to leave her family and take on a new name as well. She failed on occasion as much as they don’t want to admit it possibly, but her house had to be messy sometimes, she could have cleaned up after her boys so that you are frustrated the son might not clean up after himself…we tend to blame all the failures of our husbands on the mother when it is his sin nature we should be blaming.

Gather family recipes. Halannah did this a lot and still does. She comes over and cooks for me on occasion. Her Mexican food is outstanding! And her baking. She shares my recipes for her family.

Don’t compare your mother with your mother in law. You want to be thankful for who she is and her differences. Learn from her…listen to her too ask her what she thinks..that will go miles, ask her to tell you about raising her son, the man you are married too. Listening does not mean you have to agree but it is an honoring.

Pray for her. This is the most important part, then pray for you to be a blessing.

We are to be a blessing either way. A daughter, a grandmother, a daughter in law or a mother in law whether or not they are a delight or difficult but we should work together to give glory to the Lord and a source of blessing to others.

 ~Michelle

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Are American moms inferior to the Chinese culture or the Asian mom? What a controversy this past year when Amy Chua‘s book, The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mom came out. WSJ Article

I was quite intrigued about this whole book and the amazing response from the readership of this article where over 20, 000 readers decided to glance at this article. The response from the Western moms in America was also quite interesting.  Mother Inferior?

In the Chronicle of Higher Education article posted on Feb 20, 2011, it says that, “at least 45 percent of undergraduates demonstrated “no improvement in critical thinking, complex reasoning, and writing skills in the first two years of college, and 36 percent showed no progress in four years.” Our children cannot be competitive in the job force without the ability to think and this is where we can help them…teach them to think. I tell my children, “Everything is not about you or your fun or being irresponsible but it is about the other person too and the life responsibility that God gives you.”

How many of us really fit in the middle of this? There are many of us who are adamantly opposed to Amy’s style and there are many of us who might secretly wish we worked a little harder with our children than we do or even currently do. Being a mom of seven, I can see the need for both. Some freedom with responsibility and the ability to teach our children to finish projects that have been started but not finished, stop complaining about teachers, other parents and friends and look at what the child is doing, not being superior as a child and over protective parenting. The list can go on and on. Whether or not we homeschool, kids in public schools or private schools, we need to do a good job in order to prepare our children for life.

In this article that came out this week,  Los Angeles cheating scandal, we see that not only are the children struggling but those who watch over our children. There is blame everywhere. Ultimately I want my children to grow up being able to work for someone, understand cheating or short cuts get you no where and that as the mom, I need to train them in working hard not working to the minimum. I did not agree with everything Amy did with her girls but I also don’t agree with many of the moms who basically do the minimum with their children in order to just get by however, I do love just playing sometimes with my children. I do enjoy not having some responsibility but it truly is always at the back of my mind but then I can leave the rest up to the Lord and His plan for my children but I do want to do my part with where I am at and the tools provided for me.

In order to get the promises of God for your personal desires you must be in a process of change in your personal character, the way you have done things in the past and faith.

Is your marriage struggling, are your children leaving the faith you raised them in?

Many of us are weak. You can easily identify the weak-willed woman who has been lead astray by the teaching of the world. She has sacrificed the children and the marriage, her calling and responsibilities, for her own lusts and probably all of us have been in this place at one time or another, I know I have.

She has been deceived and is deceiving others. In her frenzied quest for success and approval from the world, she has lost the very thing she tried to gain: a blessed peace and satisfaction. After the career and the wardrobe and the membership in the health spa and the second car and the vacation, there is still a miserable void.

So, if we have failed miserably and this describes us, how can we get back what we have so willingly given up?

Romans 5:1-5 says this: Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have* peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; and perseverance, character; and character, hope. Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

 The key word here is Faith……and hope. Jesus Christ, through His Word has given me faith and hope. Faith to believe for my children, faith to believe that He would restore all of the seven children God had so graciously given to me, and He did through His mercy even though I have failed over and over again. Faith to stay and battle through the wrath of women and men who raged against the truth of the Word…faith to believe and encourage my husband when he felt like he was a failure as a minister…..faith to not break down and feel like a failure myself.

How do you do this?

Understanding first that the absence or presence of faith reveals whether or not we have a biblical doctrine of our future. Do you truly believe that God is in control of all things although in the moment it does not seem so and faith for the outcome? His word says in Roman’s 8:28  that all things work together. Even if you are yelled at, called names, condemned by those you love, He is in all things. Unbelief is always attached to the present circumstance or situation, while faith looks to that which is unseen.

1 Corinthians 10:13 reminds us that , “No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it.“

No matter how serious the situation seems, He has given you the ability to handle it but you must believe the Word of God not your feelings. Even if it is your spouse, your child or a parent, God will give you the ability to be able to handle it. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 reminds us that even in the worst of sinners, which includes us, there is hope for change.

Prayer is next. God is not looking for a perfect man, it won’t happen, however, He loves a praying man or a praying woman. James 5:16 says, “Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.“

How is your attitude? Is it critical, complaining, bitter towards the person who causes you the greatest pain? If the atmosphere of the home is not pleasant or cheerful then the other person will not want to change, they will just want to sulk or leave, however, if you make the changes and remain positive in faith, then the outcome will be in the hands of God. However, in order for God to do His work you must be righteous before you pray. Check your mouth, your heart and your attitude. We cannot ask for change unless we are in harmony with the Lord.This is not minimizing the other person’s responsibility but you cannot control them only yourself and even then, many of us struggle with self-control in areas of our lives.

Look around you, is your home in order? Or is it messy which can describe the state of our thinking and hearts. Not perfect but orderly. How about dinners? Are you creative and fun? That can bring a slight change of atmosphere as well.

As believing women, our lives must be in accordance to God’s will then with faith we can pray for change in others.

Blessings~ Michelle

We are not talking about foundations of our faith or salvation however some strong words should be used with discretion. To be quiet honest it is almost a fleshly attack. In James 3:16-18 we are reminded that, “For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice. But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere. And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.” Also James 4:1 tells us that wars and fights come from our desire to gain.

When I read Tim’s scathing comments on the movie Divided which basically cautioned all believers to not watch it amazed me. Is this a man sowing seeds himself of division? Do we not trust the Lord to lead the ministers/pastors and elders to decide for themselves if this is a possible consideration for their own churches?

If the Lord is Sovereign then even this movie which I believe their motives are to give insight to the fathers to get into right relationship with their children is apart of God’s plan and wake them up. Romans 8:28. The message by Austin Duncan (above) started out well but after about 20 min he began to get angry and actually said things that shocked me such as Deuteronomy 6 does not apply to today or should not be used in context with homeschooling. I was floored as a parent. Deuteronomy 6 applies like Psalm 23 does daily. The Lord is my Shepard.

This is not worth the controversy it is receiving and if someone is stirred up about it, could it be they are more concerned about their job or potential loss of it? Or if they run a church, don’t mess with the status quo? What I do know is when I first started listening to John MacArthur, Paul Washer or even Douglas Phillips, I took what they were teaching even though some statements I did not agree with and began to make some changes in my life and the lives of those I influence mainly my children.

That is what needs to be looked at, what seems to frustrate people the most is when they need to be a doer of the Word and not a hearer only, conviction then leads to anger or lashing out. If we all work together and not so so prideful we will listen to each other without belittling one another.

The Economist

A broader church

Fun in the woods with gay, tattooed and generally liberal folk

Jun 30th 2011 | SHAKORI HILLS, NORTH CAROLINA | from the print edition

Not Woodstock, yet

AT LEAST 25 Christian music festivals are held each summer in America, but they have never catered for theological liberals. Until this year, that is, when the Wild Goose Festival—named after a Celtic symbol for the Holy Spirit—kicked off on June 23rd on 72 wooded acres in eastern North Carolina, not so far from the intellectual hub of Raleigh-Durham.

The idea, seven years in the making, was based on Britain’s Greenbelt Festival in Cheltenham, which draws 20,000 people a year. About 1,500 people came to the American version, which explicitly pitched its appeal to artists and musicians, nonconformists, post-Christians, non-Christians, disaffected evangelicals and a liberal evangelical subset known as the “emergent” church.

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Elizabeth Shopping with Me

Today, however I was able to take both of them. Now…my youngest child is 15 1/2, if he has to go potty, I send him on his way but when you have two young ones, you do everything for them. I have new respect for my daughter-in-law, Halannah. So….off to the grocery stores to get what we need with both Elizabeth and Noah. Everyone asked me if I needed help. RIGHT…why would a mother of 7 need help with two children, 2years and a 9 month old? phew! We head off to the store and finally reach our destination which is Trader Joes. I put together a little snack bag for Noah so in case he got a little fussy, I could give him a snack. That was wisdom.  Elizabeth gets her basket and I get mine. (see above) Now, usually it is the children that have to go to potty but this time it was me. So…this was quite a challenge to say the least but we made it through. Elizabeth did not have to go…yet We get to the middle of the floor of the store, Elizabeth knows that there is a little snack that Trader Joe’s provides as a treat so she gets it. While she is getting it, Noah decides to toss his full snack bag on the floor and while I am staring at it thinking about the mess that I have no idea on how I am going to clean it up, a wonderful woman ( I love TJ’s) comes over and cleans it up for me saying she does this all day so no worries. For some dumb reason, I thought a 9 month old can hold a snack back correctly. We start to walk over to the milk/egg and yogurt section all the while Elizabeth is collecting whatever she can grab at her eye level at the same time I am trying to figure out what is in her basket that I did not need. So we then go over to the yogurt section and I hand Noah a yogurt. He proceeds to look at it then throws it on the floor. Um…it is lemon, sticky and all over the place. Elizabeth looks at me and says, “Uh oh, grandma, look what Noah did, we need to clean that up.” I said, “Yes, Elizabeth we do.” I look over and I could not bring myself to ask the sweet lady to help me again and just as I was working to figure out what to do a man stepped in it, Elizabeth looks at me, I look at her both our eyes look at the lemon trail the man is leaving all across the floor. I cannot believe I am a pastors wife at this moment because I say, sh! let’s go because there were people everywhere starting to walk all over the lemon yogurt and tracking it all over the store. So we slip over to the cheese section and Elizabeth points to my pants and says, “Grandma look!” I look at the back of my pants and all up the back is lemon yogurt. I could not wait to get out of that store! On my way home, my granddaughter says to me, “Grandma, I love you.” I would not trade my new lemon yogurt pants for anything.